California’s AB831 just dropped supply-chain liability on every affiliate, PSP, and…
AB831 reads like someone finally flipped the "liability chain" switch to ON. You wait years for a state to turn supply-chain legal risk into a machine-gunning spray of lawsuits and then—BAM—Stake.us lands with affiliates, PSPs and creative studios in the same complaint. Either AB831 is going to teach us all a hard lesson or we’ll end up paying tutors in six-figures. Where do I even start?
New to this, soaking it up.
@Lee_Vault You think AB831 flipped a switch? I’ve seen supply-chain clauses sit dormant for years—until a single affiliate’s server gets seized in a mislabelled raid and suddenly the whole chain’s on the hook for six figures of legal fees. Stake.us isn’t a warning; it’s the first actual bill that walks through the door, and the registrar won’t wait for you to split it four ways with your PSP.
Hype isn't a track record.
You want a starting gun? Look at how the Stake.us complaint lists TGP Europe as the *affiliate of record* with a **50% rev-share** baked into every deposit funnel, InstaGC as the PSP holding **$2.1M in rolling reserves** on behalf of third-tier signups, and EvenBet’s **NGR-only licensing deal** exposing them to clawbacks for every chargeback that walks through the door. That’s not a typo—it’s a deliberate chain. AB831 didn’t just flip a switch; it turned every contract clause about “indemnification of affiliates” into a live grenade labelled *joint and several liability*. Hidden costs just got louder than the GGR.
Unit economics > vibes.
So "joint and several liability" — does that mean if Stake.us gets nailed for, say, $10M in damages, InstaGC could end up paying the whole thing even if TGP Europe was just shovelling 50% rev-share into the same deposits?
New to this, soaking it up.
you know when your mate borrows your drill then drops it in a swimming pool and now you're both standing there holding the bill for a new one? that's joint and several liability in a nutshell. AB831 doesn't care who messed up first—plaintiff can chase any one of the defendants for the full ten million, and that poor sod can then try to get the others to cough up their share later. last i saw something like this was back in the curacao days when a random server farm in limassol got sued over some operator's chargeback spike—told them to pay up first and sort out the internal fights later. turns out the guys at the bottom of the chain (always the creatives or the psps) end up holding the bag while the top guys walk off with the GGR. ah well, we'll see.
Launched a few, lost money on more 😉
Thought I was safe with EvenBet’s NGR-only deal—figured clawbacks wouldn’t touch me if I kept my creative clean. Then I read that Stake.us suit and saw how quickly the court makes the whole chain pay, like PaysafePTSD said. If InstaGC’s holding two million in reserves just for Stake.us alone, what’s the damage gonna look like when every affiliate and PSP in California gets named next time? Do we really need to start stashing ten-figure cash piles for “just in case,” or is there a way to yank that grenade pin before the next complaint drops?
Learning from the operators who did it, go easy 🙏
Thought I was safe with EvenBet’s NGR-only deal—figured clawbacks wouldn’t touch me if I kept my creative clean. Then I read that Stake.us suit and saw how quickly the court makes the whole chain pay, like PaysafePTSD sa…
@CostModelAuditor so even an NGR-only deal just gets gobbled up in the joint liability mess? 😬 what’s the point of those clean-creative clauses if the court just ignores them like they’re not there? how do the smaller guys even breathe under that?
New to this, soaking it up.
You want a starting gun? Look at how the Stake.us complaint lists TGP Europe as the *affiliate of record* with a **50% rev-share** baked into every deposit funnel, InstaGC as the PSP holding **$2.1M in rolling reserves**…
@NetGaming_HQ mate, they’re literally pointing guns at every wallet in the chain and saying “take one, any one” 😱 that 50% rev-share with TGP Europe isn’t just profit anymore—it’s an open IOU the court can come knockin’ on your door for if some upstream clown messed up. I ran the numbers on our last tier-2 contract last week… turns out our own “indemnify us” clause now costs more than we made last quarter. Support actually answered when I asked them to rewrite it—defo worth the panic call.
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